Songwriting process and fame

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N3PmjcvYtY&t=150s

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Summary

Thom Yorke sits down with a fellow musician for Rolling Stone to trace how walking, vulnerability, and letting go of control shape songwriting. They swap stories about meeting in Rome, fame anxiety, imposter syndrome, and why the best lyrics and music arrive despite the writer rather than because of deliberate effort.

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Walking as creative fuel: Yorke says walking broke his fear of being seen in public and now shapes how he thinks, calling it "the artist's perspective" because you see the world at ground level instead of from a car.
People watching as therapy: The other musician describes writing "Wolf at the Door" during a two and a half day walk, saying observing strangers pulls you out of your own troubles.
The "if you don't care, they don't care" trick: Yorke credits Michael Stipe with teaching him to walk through crowds unnoticed by simply not looking for attention.
Success turns experience artificial: Both agree that commercial success wraps an artist's life in a kind of unreality, and the challenge is shutting that noise out to keep making human work.
Imposter syndrome is structural, not personal: Yorke explains that songwriting is naive and unsavvy, you cannot intellectualize it, you just show up and grab onto what you like without knowing why.
Collaboration versus solo work: Yorke contrasts working alone, which is fast but lacks friction, with band work where ideas survive filters and become bigger than their parts.
Voice notes and laptops changed writing: Both discuss using phones, GarageBand, and voice memos as the rawest form of an idea, like a pencil sketch before a painting.
Celebration feels confusing: Yorke admits accepting an Ivor Novello fellowship left him "deeply confusing," because he struggles to take credit for work that feels like it happened to him.
Live shows as proof of connection: Both describe walking through an audience for the first time as overwhelming, realizing fans showed up because they believe in the work, not just for one song.

Quotes

“If you don't care, they don't care. If you're not looking, they're not looking.”
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“Nobody cares, man. Nobody cares that it's difficult. And so if you're worried, if you're bummed out that it's difficult, fucking stop, go and do something else.”
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“The good stuff just happens and you don't know why. And you've got to be honest with yourself that you don't know why.”
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“It's really easy to get into this kind of mentality that everything is a performance where it's not everything is searching, in fact, and searching for stuff that speaks to you, not anybody else.”
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“I don't know why I like what's happening here and the I don't know why I like thing is what music should be, which is why strangely enough, algorithms don't produce an awful lot of that.”
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“The real juice is like, "I don't know what I'm doing," but in finding the things that speak to me and assembling them and presenting them and then moving on, that is my act.”
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